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		<title>Comment on This post started&#8230; by Nick Beech</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Beech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting post. But...(always a but?) I&#039;m not convinced by the rendering of &#039;the death of the Author&#039; you provide and I think it leads down a very particular path.

Is the post-structuralist position really that the &#039;work must speak for itself&#039;? I always thought that the post-structuralist position was that: the &#039;author&#039; is a function of criticism—it is a construct that enables certain interpretations; so the &#039;author&#039; is, then, as much a construct as the work; so &#039;author&#039; claims have no truth value. 

But, given that post-structuralism places &#039;truth values&#039; in crisis, this does not suggest that the &#039;work&#039; should &#039;speak for itself&#039;, but that the critic must attend to their role in the construction of the &#039;work&#039;—the &#039;death of the author&#039; is not (or not only) the death of the subject (he/she did this/that), but the de-centring of subjectivity—the &#039;he/she&#039; is as much a product of the process as the work. Finally, the critic is not immune—the &#039;subject&#039; of the critic is as much an effect of &#039;working&#039; as the author&#039;s &#039;subject&#039;. What&#039;s left—once the &#039;work&#039;, the &#039;author&#039;, and the &#039;critic&#039; are stripped out—is an ongoing process.

All this might still refuse the question raised—&#039;what was/is your starting point? How did your interest start?&#039;—and lead to the kind of contradiction indicated. But only if that question was already framed with a—&#039;and when &quot;your&quot; is mentioned, what is meant is &quot;you&quot; as an already given, prior subject&#039;.

But that hasn&#039;t (I&#039;m guessing) been said. So, there are a number of options available to the post-structuralist position—it could be assumed that such a framing has indeed occurred (such an assumption seems to be running in the post) and a critique of that assumption could be made. That, it seems to me, is where Althusser would operate: a kind of ideology critique, where the assumption from the questioner is placed into crisis.
 
But, the question itself could be radically opened—perhaps a post-structuralist position was already assumed when the question was raised. Could it not call to attention the constructed nature of the project AND the doctoral candidate. That NEITHER are prior to the research, and that NEITHER are simply &#039;given&#039;. 

Such a re-framing of the question would open both theoretical and pedagogical possibilities. On a theoretical level, it might remind the researcher that to go back to the beginning is not to find the &#039;origin&#039;, but to afford the process of research primacy—allowing for the &#039;start&#039; point to re-enter a circuit so (and assuming the question doesn&#039;t just receive a blank stare from the podium!) in answering the question, the &#039;start&#039; is re-posed, re-articulated, perhaps even dis-articulated from original suppositions, and therefore transformed—it isn&#039;t the same start! 

On the pedagogical level, it might remind the researcher that they are not &#039;alone&#039;—even in their &#039;starting point&#039;! The question could remind that &#039;we&#039; are engaged with &#039;others&#039;—supervisors, colleagues, institutions, technologies, discourses, networks, etc.—in a continuous process of construction. The very posing of the question is then as much a &#039;reminder&#039; to the researcher that they are participating in something wider, as it is a prompt for the researcher to remind the questioner what the hell it is they are going on about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting post. But&#8230;(always a but?) I&#8217;m not convinced by the rendering of &#8216;the death of the Author&#8217; you provide and I think it leads down a very particular path.</p>
<p>Is the post-structuralist position really that the &#8216;work must speak for itself&#8217;? I always thought that the post-structuralist position was that: the &#8216;author&#8217; is a function of criticism—it is a construct that enables certain interpretations; so the &#8216;author&#8217; is, then, as much a construct as the work; so &#8216;author&#8217; claims have no truth value. </p>
<p>But, given that post-structuralism places &#8216;truth values&#8217; in crisis, this does not suggest that the &#8216;work&#8217; should &#8217;speak for itself&#8217;, but that the critic must attend to their role in the construction of the &#8216;work&#8217;—the &#8216;death of the author&#8217; is not (or not only) the death of the subject (he/she did this/that), but the de-centring of subjectivity—the &#8216;he/she&#8217; is as much a product of the process as the work. Finally, the critic is not immune—the &#8217;subject&#8217; of the critic is as much an effect of &#8216;working&#8217; as the author&#8217;s &#8217;subject&#8217;. What&#8217;s left—once the &#8216;work&#8217;, the &#8216;author&#8217;, and the &#8216;critic&#8217; are stripped out—is an ongoing process.</p>
<p>All this might still refuse the question raised—&#8217;what was/is your starting point? How did your interest start?&#8217;—and lead to the kind of contradiction indicated. But only if that question was already framed with a—&#8217;and when &#8220;your&#8221; is mentioned, what is meant is &#8220;you&#8221; as an already given, prior subject&#8217;.</p>
<p>But that hasn&#8217;t (I&#8217;m guessing) been said. So, there are a number of options available to the post-structuralist position—it could be assumed that such a framing has indeed occurred (such an assumption seems to be running in the post) and a critique of that assumption could be made. That, it seems to me, is where Althusser would operate: a kind of ideology critique, where the assumption from the questioner is placed into crisis.</p>
<p>But, the question itself could be radically opened—perhaps a post-structuralist position was already assumed when the question was raised. Could it not call to attention the constructed nature of the project AND the doctoral candidate. That NEITHER are prior to the research, and that NEITHER are simply &#8216;given&#8217;. </p>
<p>Such a re-framing of the question would open both theoretical and pedagogical possibilities. On a theoretical level, it might remind the researcher that to go back to the beginning is not to find the &#8216;origin&#8217;, but to afford the process of research primacy—allowing for the &#8217;start&#8217; point to re-enter a circuit so (and assuming the question doesn&#8217;t just receive a blank stare from the podium!) in answering the question, the &#8217;start&#8217; is re-posed, re-articulated, perhaps even dis-articulated from original suppositions, and therefore transformed—it isn&#8217;t the same start! </p>
<p>On the pedagogical level, it might remind the researcher that they are not &#8216;alone&#8217;—even in their &#8217;starting point&#8217;! The question could remind that &#8216;we&#8217; are engaged with &#8216;others&#8217;—supervisors, colleagues, institutions, technologies, discourses, networks, etc.—in a continuous process of construction. The very posing of the question is then as much a &#8216;reminder&#8217; to the researcher that they are participating in something wider, as it is a prompt for the researcher to remind the questioner what the hell it is they are going on about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Room with a View: Penthouses and Slums in Rio de Janeiro by J Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wes-

Thanks for this perspective on favelas. I appreciate your scrutiny of those points which seem easy to ignore or take for granted. It is particularly interesting to realize that these high-rise buildings are a very different gated-community than the typologies we are familiar with in the midwest U.S.</description>
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<p>Thanks for this perspective on favelas. I appreciate your scrutiny of those points which seem easy to ignore or take for granted. It is particularly interesting to realize that these high-rise buildings are a very different gated-community than the typologies we are familiar with in the midwest U.S.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Architecture and Environmental Response by Lucy Natarajan</title>
		<link>http://bartlett-thinktank.org/2011/03/architecture-and-environmental-response/comment-page-1/#comment-873</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy Natarajan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 04:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig your post really resonated with me, as I compare buildings from different eras in Singapore. The old shophouses (see link below) were built in the 19th century using pre-aircon cooling techniques that encourage the flow of air through the building and use water and shade to great effect in garden spaces. As well as being incredibly energy efficient for the tropical climate, they are also beautiful and &#039;human scale&#039;.

http://bartlett-thinktank.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/IMG_20100824_114852-shophouse.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig your post really resonated with me, as I compare buildings from different eras in Singapore. The old shophouses (see link below) were built in the 19th century using pre-aircon cooling techniques that encourage the flow of air through the building and use water and shade to great effect in garden spaces. As well as being incredibly energy efficient for the tropical climate, they are also beautiful and &#8216;human scale&#8217;.</p>
<p><a href="http://bartlett-thinktank.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/IMG_20100824_114852-shophouse.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://bartlett-thinktank.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/IMG_20100824_114852-shophouse.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on A good critique of British urban ‘development’ by Michael Edwards</title>
		<link>http://bartlett-thinktank.org/2011/03/a-good-critique-of-british-urban-%e2%80%98development%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-871</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 10:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes that article yesterday is useful, and very restrained, considering what a scandal that Heygate Estate story is. We had a walking tour if the estate n january with a MSc class. It was shocking... and I think I should draw this article to their attention.

NB people interested in all this would greatly enjoy the movie &#039;UTOPIA LONDON&#039;
Dir. Tom Cordell, 2010, 80min
www.utopialondon.com/ which was shown last night at LSE. It deals with a number of key modernist buldings (mostly housing) in London and includes their original architects re-visiting.  Apparently the Bartlett Film Soc is buyin a copy of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes that article yesterday is useful, and very restrained, considering what a scandal that Heygate Estate story is. We had a walking tour if the estate n january with a MSc class. It was shocking&#8230; and I think I should draw this article to their attention.</p>
<p>NB people interested in all this would greatly enjoy the movie &#8216;UTOPIA LONDON&#8217;<br />
Dir. Tom Cordell, 2010, 80min<br />
<a href="http://www.utopialondon.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.utopialondon.com/</a> which was shown last night at LSE. It deals with a number of key modernist buldings (mostly housing) in London and includes their original architects re-visiting.  Apparently the Bartlett Film Soc is buyin a copy of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A good critique of British urban ‘development’ by Daniel Fitzpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/mar/04/death-housing-ideal

The death of a housing ideal:

Interesting article reflecting on the post came out today on the failure of utopian housing. 

At one end of the discussion is the failure of software:
&quot;Software, not hardware; people, not buildings; politics, not aesthetics.&quot;

but Power points out that a pragmatic approach would be &quot;bringing derelict and unused property back into use, converting empty commercial buildings for residential use, making sure every council property is occupied – and plugging the gaps with small-scale developments.&quot; 

the debate rages on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/mar/04/death-housing-ideal" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/mar/04/death-housing-ideal</a></p>
<p>The death of a housing ideal:</p>
<p>Interesting article reflecting on the post came out today on the failure of utopian housing. </p>
<p>At one end of the discussion is the failure of software:<br />
&#8220;Software, not hardware; people, not buildings; politics, not aesthetics.&#8221;</p>
<p>but Power points out that a pragmatic approach would be &#8220;bringing derelict and unused property back into use, converting empty commercial buildings for residential use, making sure every council property is occupied – and plugging the gaps with small-scale developments.&#8221; </p>
<p>the debate rages on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on In support of the UCL occupation by Nick Beech</title>
		<link>http://bartlett-thinktank.org/2010/12/in-support-of-the-ucl-occupation/comment-page-1/#comment-862</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Beech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I welcome the editor&#039;s of Bartlett Think-Tank&#039;s statement of support for the occupation, and highly recommend that regular contributors to the Bartlett Think-Tank go to the occupied space at UCL. 
I have now run a seminar there, and attended workshops and seminars chaired/provided by leading scholars at UCL. The students at the occupation are already beginning to demonstrate an alternative model of education—one in which the space of the academy is defined by the production and dissemination of knowledge, contra the present government&#039;s proposals that restrict the higher education sector to the reproduction of skills for the wider labour market.
The students of the occupation that I have met are extremely enthusiastic and hungry in their pursuit of critical and analytical tools for understanding and contesting the status quo, in social, political, economic, cultural, and spatial terms—I urge you to go there and contribute if you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I welcome the editor&#8217;s of Bartlett Think-Tank&#8217;s statement of support for the occupation, and highly recommend that regular contributors to the Bartlett Think-Tank go to the occupied space at UCL.<br />
I have now run a seminar there, and attended workshops and seminars chaired/provided by leading scholars at UCL. The students at the occupation are already beginning to demonstrate an alternative model of education—one in which the space of the academy is defined by the production and dissemination of knowledge, contra the present government&#8217;s proposals that restrict the higher education sector to the reproduction of skills for the wider labour market.<br />
The students of the occupation that I have met are extremely enthusiastic and hungry in their pursuit of critical and analytical tools for understanding and contesting the status quo, in social, political, economic, cultural, and spatial terms—I urge you to go there and contribute if you can.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Robinson in Ruins, a film by Patrick Keiller by Jacob Paskins</title>
		<link>http://bartlett-thinktank.org/2010/11/robinson-in-ruins-a-film-by-patrick-keiller/comment-page-1/#comment-860</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Paskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was eager to see Robinson in Ruins in the cinema, if only to enjoy Keiller&#039;s stunning photography and witty visual humour, familiar to audiences from his two previous films about the enigmatic Robinson, London (1994) and Robinson in Space (1997).

On this front, the film did not disappoint. The images are fabulous, such as the foxglove blowing in the wind, slowly waltzing across the screen, in and out of the static frame. Towards the end of the film, as the narrator recounts the chronology of the global financial meltdown in September 2008, we see a lengthy shot of a spider spinning its web, as crisp in detail as you will ever see. Truly breathtaking.

While many films today are filmed in digital video before being transferred to 35mm for projection in cinemas, Keiller made Robinson in Ruins in 35mm before being digitised for distribution. In Robinson in Ruins, the narrator declares that Robinson (who apparently filmed the images we see) justified his use of 35mm because he believed photographic film would conserve longer than digital video. Despite the digitised projection, Robinson in Ruins felt like a swan song to the medium of film, which appears to be entering its final years as cinemas are increasingly concerting to digital formats.

Unlike the two previous Robinson films, there is no musical soundtrack in Robinson in Ruins, ensuring the images do not become decorative background. For all Keiller&#039;s visual virtuosity, however, the narration was at times less carefully balanced. Some passages were too dense, packed with dates and names, while other moments were frustratingly sparse. We might blame this on Robinson&#039;s erratic notes, but I&#039;m tempted to say that perhaps the steam of these essay films might be running out. Many of the ideas expressed in the narration were familiar from the previous Robinson films, and some passages were directly quoted from the earlier works.

I read that this will be the final Robinson film, and let&#039;s hope it will be. Sometimes there can be too much of a good thing. I hope Keiller will now turn to develop the work he began in his City of the Future project which culminated in a video installation at BFI Southbank in November 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was eager to see Robinson in Ruins in the cinema, if only to enjoy Keiller&#8217;s stunning photography and witty visual humour, familiar to audiences from his two previous films about the enigmatic Robinson, London (1994) and Robinson in Space (1997).</p>
<p>On this front, the film did not disappoint. The images are fabulous, such as the foxglove blowing in the wind, slowly waltzing across the screen, in and out of the static frame. Towards the end of the film, as the narrator recounts the chronology of the global financial meltdown in September 2008, we see a lengthy shot of a spider spinning its web, as crisp in detail as you will ever see. Truly breathtaking.</p>
<p>While many films today are filmed in digital video before being transferred to 35mm for projection in cinemas, Keiller made Robinson in Ruins in 35mm before being digitised for distribution. In Robinson in Ruins, the narrator declares that Robinson (who apparently filmed the images we see) justified his use of 35mm because he believed photographic film would conserve longer than digital video. Despite the digitised projection, Robinson in Ruins felt like a swan song to the medium of film, which appears to be entering its final years as cinemas are increasingly concerting to digital formats.</p>
<p>Unlike the two previous Robinson films, there is no musical soundtrack in Robinson in Ruins, ensuring the images do not become decorative background. For all Keiller&#8217;s visual virtuosity, however, the narration was at times less carefully balanced. Some passages were too dense, packed with dates and names, while other moments were frustratingly sparse. We might blame this on Robinson&#8217;s erratic notes, but I&#8217;m tempted to say that perhaps the steam of these essay films might be running out. Many of the ideas expressed in the narration were familiar from the previous Robinson films, and some passages were directly quoted from the earlier works.</p>
<p>I read that this will be the final Robinson film, and let&#8217;s hope it will be. Sometimes there can be too much of a good thing. I hope Keiller will now turn to develop the work he began in his City of the Future project which culminated in a video installation at BFI Southbank in November 2007.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The myth of the architect by Thomas-Bernard Kenniff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas-Bernard Kenniff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the myths, the many myths, of the architect that still holds ground in popular culture is the idea that architecture, like Athena from Zeus or the world from God, springs forth from the genius of a single individual. Nothing makes a good story like a cocktail napkin sketch, or a heroic struggle for righteousness. That is a telling photo of Pitt and Gehry: if Brad was not pretending to work and Frank was not leaning in so awkwardly it may have been okay. I can only hope that the worrying (supposed) revival of interest in Ayn Rand&#039;s philosophy won&#039;t parallel a revival in the Howard Roarke complex. 
See for example in Times Higher Education: http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=407357
And feast your eyes on GPS heroics here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/aug/23/ayn-rand-world-largest-book-ad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the myths, the many myths, of the architect that still holds ground in popular culture is the idea that architecture, like Athena from Zeus or the world from God, springs forth from the genius of a single individual. Nothing makes a good story like a cocktail napkin sketch, or a heroic struggle for righteousness. That is a telling photo of Pitt and Gehry: if Brad was not pretending to work and Frank was not leaning in so awkwardly it may have been okay. I can only hope that the worrying (supposed) revival of interest in Ayn Rand&#8217;s philosophy won&#8217;t parallel a revival in the Howard Roarke complex.<br />
See for example in Times Higher Education: <a href="http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=407357" rel="nofollow">http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=407357</a><br />
And feast your eyes on GPS heroics here: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/aug/23/ayn-rand-world-largest-book-ad" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/aug/23/ayn-rand-world-largest-book-ad</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Through the minds of teenagers by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this isn&#039;t a participatory art project but more of an old fashioned model of students-copy-artist, which a lot of arts education programmes still run. 

I also have the feeling that the artist&#039;s project wasn&#039;t about Barking, and although there are references to the area, these seem to be coincidental. I say this without knowing her artistic process, maybe she did get the students to go out and look at the city, but I have a suspicion that this project was more about wanting to make radical issue-based art, which refers to other art rather than a direct engagement and observation of Barking. Art that seems to be about life, but is really about making pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this isn&#8217;t a participatory art project but more of an old fashioned model of students-copy-artist, which a lot of arts education programmes still run. </p>
<p>I also have the feeling that the artist&#8217;s project wasn&#8217;t about Barking, and although there are references to the area, these seem to be coincidental. I say this without knowing her artistic process, maybe she did get the students to go out and look at the city, but I have a suspicion that this project was more about wanting to make radical issue-based art, which refers to other art rather than a direct engagement and observation of Barking. Art that seems to be about life, but is really about making pictures.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Theorizing the ‘sociology of public space’. by M. Torres</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Torres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 18:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been interested in this line of research for some time as well. If you still are, please contact me privately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been interested in this line of research for some time as well. If you still are, please contact me privately.</p>
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